This section of Heartland R/C seemed kinda dead..

[Scotty08]

Thought i'ld post something and see if anyone out there is paying attention..

Anyone ready for May 30th? I think I am.. Still haven't run the truggy since May16 race. Need to figure out my lean conidition after 10 minute mark.. Wierd..

[foote2floor]

i think its the fuel your using! you need less nitro and more electrons.

[savagecrew]

na electrons wont work the carb

[Losi4Life]

If your going lean after your tank gets half full it's an air leak.....

[foote2floor]

The motor he is using has been taken apart and sealed like 12 times. He just needs to jb weld the entire thing closed.

[DMYERS]

check the tank and fuel lines.

[Losi4Life]

The motor he is using has been taken apart and sealed like 12 times. He just needs to jb weld the entire thing closed.

LMAO
I would guess it's a front bearing, or like DMYERS said change the fuel lines and maybe even the tank. Your tank could be leaking from the lid.. Sometimes when the tanks get old the cap doesn't seal very well.

[foote2floor]

I meant seal it with JB weld to a board and use it as a display for a LHS. LOL

[Losi4Life]

I meant seal it with JB weld to a board and use it as a display for a LHS. LOL

LOL
Thats too funny..

[foote2floor]

LOL
Thats too funny..

He is one heck of a guy and would do anything for anyone, but i just couldnt resist. I wish he would stop roofing and get on here and see how i have mutilated his thread.

[Scotty08]

i think its the fuel your using! you need less nitro and more electrons.
Not enough noise with Electro!!! I need that vroooommm And that smell can't be beat..

If your going lean after your tank gets half full it's an air leak.....
Thanks Sean.. I think the Mid Speed needle needs bumped out a touch. It had been running really cool, until I put in the 6mm carb insert. Leaned out HSN for about 2 hours to comp for this. It'll run heats with no problem and still only be 225ish after 5min.. Ran 9+min in practice at last race date and was @ 236 at end of run. But in the Main, it had been running awesome, but over heated and died and wouldn't stay running after 12 minutes.. Was good at 7 minutes when I pitted, died coming up stand outa fuel.. I bumped the MSN in a touch before breaking to flush like the manual called out. Dalton thinks I need to move it back out.. And I am thinking he is right.. We'll get it sorted eventually..

The motor he is using has been taken apart and sealed like 12 times. He just needs to jb weld the entire thing closed.
Um I have only had this engine apart twice.. Once when I got it, to seal it. The 2nd time was 4 weeks ago when I resealed because of fuel around the carb.. ONly to find out it is spitting fuel into the air filter neck and some how running out of that. Engine is sealed...

check the tank and fuel lines.

I have some new fuel line still in package that i am think of installing, but not sure that it will do much good, cause the line on there now has less than a gallon through it..


He is one heck of a guy and would do anything for anyone, but i just couldnt resist. I wish he would stop roofing and get on here and see how i have mutilated his thread.

You are trashing my thread pretty good.. BUt I wasn't roffing I was asleep.. I almost fell asleep at the puter earlier.. So I sadi Fugg it, and took a 4 hour nap.. Now I'll be up all night..

One more thing Foote: QUIT TRASHIN MY THREAD!!!

[thunderkitty]

Not enough noise with Electro!!! I need that vroooommm And that smell can't be beat..

Thanks Sean.. I think the Mid Speed needle needs bumped out a touch. It had been running really cool, until I put in the 6mm carb insert. Leaned out HSN for about 2 hours to comp for this. It'll run heats with no problem and still only be 225ish after 5min.. Ran 9+min in practice at last race date and was @ 236 at end of run. But in the Main, it had been running awesome, but over heated and died and wouldn't stay running after 12 minutes.. Was good at 7 minutes when I pitted, died coming up stand outa fuel.. I bumped the MSN in a touch before breaking to flush like the manual called out. Dalton thinks I need to move it back out.. And I am thinking he is right.. We'll get it sorted eventually..]


you may already know this but to make a change in the mid mixture without chaniging the ls mix you must move the lsn exactly the same amount in the same direction. for instance if the msn moves towards the right side of the vehicle 1turn the lsn needs to do the same. if not the lsn will become lean by the amount the msn was moved. the same is true in the other direction except rich will be the rusult.
i explained that badly someone help me out here.

however the jb weld thing may also work.lol

[foote2floor]

you may already know this but to make a change in the mid mixture without chaniging the ls mix you must move the lsn exactly the same amount in the same direction. for instance if the msn moves towards the right side of the vehicle 1turn the lsn needs to do the same. if not the lsn will become lean by the amount the msn was moved.

however the jb weld thing may also work.lol

Hey scotty, i had nothing to so with this one! it was all on his own.

[Scotty08]

you may already know this but to make a change in the mid mixture without chaniging the ls mix you must move the lsn exactly the same amount in the same direction. for instance if the msn moves towards the right side of the vehicle 1turn the lsn needs to do the same. if not the lsn will become lean by the amount the msn was moved.

however the jb weld thing may also work.lol

So with what you have posted here. When I richen the MSN I need to lean the LSN?? BUt I did not know this.. Thanks Kitty

[Scotty08]

Hey scotty, i had nothing to so with this one! it was all on his own.

Somehow I think you put the thought in his mind..

[thunderkitty]

So with what you have posted here. When I richen the MSN I need to lean the LSN?? BUt I did not know this.. Thanks Kitty

yes. it makes more sense when you look into the throat of the carb and move the throttle open and watch the lsn exit the msn.

[Scotty08]

When you said it kinda made sense.

LEt me ask this. I leaned the MSN before ever starting this engine. Should I bump the Msn out with out touching the LSN? Or move them both together and then retune the LSN from there?

[foote2floor]

When you said it kinda made sense.

LEt me ask this. I leaned the MSN before ever starting this engine. Should I bump the Msn out with out touching the LSN? Or move them both together and then retune the LSN from there?

maybe i should retract my previous statement. Maybe you should jb weld one of the needle holes after you take it out. That thing has holes and needles everywere. LSN, HSN, MSN, Idle Needle, Cross stitch needle.... Sorry got carried away. I will stay away this time, Ha ha .

[thunderkitty]

When you said it kinda made sense.

LEt me ask this. I leaned the MSN before ever starting this engine. Should I bump the Msn out with out touching the LSN? Or move them both together and then retune the LSN from there?

in order to retain the lsn mixture that you had originally,,, yes you should.
somewhere i have a sheet that takes the mystery out of 3needle carbs. i will see if i can find it for you.

[Scotty08]

in order to retain the lsn mixture that you had originally,,, yes you should.
somewhere i have a sheet that takes the mystery out of 3needle carbs. i will see if i can find it for you.

That would be much appreciated. Thanks Kitty..

[Scotty08]

maybe i should retract my previous statement. Maybe you should jb weld one of the needle holes after you take it out. That thing has holes and needles everywere. LSN, HSN, MSN, Idle Needle, Cross stitch needle.... Sorry got carried away. I will stay away this time, Ha ha .

You gotta have all them needles to fine tune one to whoop some Electo butt!!!

[foote2floor]

You gotta have all them needles to fine tune one to whoop some Electo butt!!!

You better get more than three, maybe you can just get 50 of them just glue them to the sides of the wheels and take the other cars out.

[Scotty08]

That's a good idea.. Smart A$$.. I won't be helping you find the line through a track again anytime soon....

[foote2floor]

even if you help me find it i couldnt follow it, i am that bad of a driver. LOL remember i was the guy on his lid through most of the race.

[Scotty08]

even if you help me find it i couldnt follow it, i am that bad of a driver. LOL remember i was the guy on his lid through most of the race.

Naw man you did fine just had to find the rythm in the rythm section.. You did take 3rd..

[savagecrew]

hey scotty you got good from the electrics LOL

[Scotty08]

hey scotty you got good from the electrics LOL

Them electrics are for weenies that can't tune. LOL They are amazingly fast though.. Faster than a Nitro actually.. BUt I gotta have that noise and smell.. Me and Foote are becomin good friends, and like to poke fun back and forth toward each other.. So, don't think anythign we said toward each other is I'll meant in anyway.. Just two friends taking jabs at each other.


I'm outa here for a few ya'll gotta get some grub and proly gonna hit the sack soon. Another day of roofing tomorrow.. And prolly into Monday also.. rain killed our schedule.

[Losi4Life]

Them electrics are for weenies that can't tune. LOL They are amazingly fast though.. Faster than a Nitro actually.. BUt I gotta have that noise and smell.. Me and Foote are becomin good friends, and like to poke fun back and forth toward each other.. So, don't think anythign we said toward each other is I'll meant in anyway.. Just two friends taking jabs at each other.


I'm outa here for a few ya'll gotta get some grub and proly gonna hit the sack soon. Another day of roofing tomorrow.. And prolly into Monday also.. rain killed our schedule.

Hey now I'm putting a RX8 system in my 8t 1.0 to play with around the house, and I can tune the crap out of motors. That said I hate 3 needle carbs, most of the time you need to set the mid needle and leave it alone. Don't ask me why I'm putting a racing system in my basher. It's just as expensive as all the other systems tho. The way it's goning I'll never get it built.

[Scotty08]

Hey now I'm putting a RX8 system in my 8t 1.0 to play with around the house, and I can tune the crap out of motors. That said I hate 3 needle carbs, most of the time you need to set the mid needle and leave it alone. Don't ask me why I'm putting a racing system in my basher. It's just as expensive as all the other systems tho. The way it's goning I'll never get it built.

Keep in mind Sean I was just give Foote a hard time.. I like the idea of plug and race. but I can't control the out put of a nitro engine let alone the torque and power of electric.. Them things rip and it is intantaneous.

[viper6171]

Them electrics are for weenies that can't tune. LOL They are amazingly fast though.. Faster than a Nitro actually.. BUt I gotta have that noise and smell.. Me and Foote are becomin good friends, and like to poke fun back and forth toward each other.. So, don't think anythign we said toward each other is I'll meant in anyway.. Just two friends taking jabs at each other.


I'm outa here for a few ya'll gotta get some grub and proly gonna hit the sack soon. Another day of roofing tomorrow.. And prolly into Monday also.. rain killed our schedule.

hey now i resemble that remark

[Losi4Life]

Keep in mind Sean I was just give Foote a hard time.. I like the idea of plug and race. but I can't control the out put of a nitro engine let alone the torque and power of electric.. Them things rip and it is intantaneous.

I know I was just making small talk..:)

[Scotty08]

I know I was just making small talk..:)

OH OKay.. That system you picked is a sweet one from what I can tell.. Tekin has always been good in the electronics area..

[Losi4Life]

OH OKay.. That system you picked is a sweet one from what I can tell.. Tekin has always been good in the electronics area..

Yea it is a duel system it has all the advantages of a sensord system on the low end and the advantages of a sensorless system on the top.

[Scotty08]

Yea it is a duel system it has all the advantages of a sensord system on the low end and the advantages of a sensorless system on the top.

I'ld like to make my CRT a test mule for engines after I pick up another Truggy.. I plan to also test electic set ups too.. Will cool to be able to have back to back comparisons from the same vehicle.. See what advantages and disadvantages each set up might have..

But, I'm gonna wait until the winter and try to pick up the new MBX6T. Sweet looking ride.. And will prolly be my next big purchase..

[DMYERS]

Keep in mind Sean I was just give Foote a hard time.. I like the idea of plug and race. but I can't control the out put of a nitro engine let alone the torque and power of electric.. Them things rip and it is intantaneous.

The cool thing about electric is with the on board programing on the esc and the x-po and end point adjustments on the radio. the programing adjustments are limitless.you can make one run just about anyway you want. And they never flame out :) Allthough they do have a tendency to blowup or melt down from time to time :confused2:confused2

[Scotty08]

The cool thing about electric is with the on board programing on the esc and the x-po and end point adjustments on the radio. the programing adjustments are limitless.you can make one run just about anyway you want. And they never flame out :) Allthough they do have a tendency to blowup or melt down from time to time :confused2:confused2

The blowing up and melting down is what makes me not want electric. That along with all the extras I'ld have to buy.. The motor/ESC ain't that big of a deal to me. It is the $150+ batteries, and a $200+ charger that keeps me from gettin into the elecrtic scene.. Adn we all know batteries don't last forever and I am gonna guess the best ESC will last 2 years tops along with the batts. It all prolly weighs out nearly the same as nitro in the same course of time. So the deciding factor is the smell and sound for me.. I know not everyone agrees with that. I am also sure that there are times when electric can be run when nitro can't.. Nitro still does it for me better than electric. At least for now..

[DMYERS]

Yeah it really is An even choice. I just hate dealing with all the hassle of running nitro with the constant tuning and clutch maintenance. It just aint worth it. But every now and then you find that sweet spot where the motor just runs perfect. and they can be alot of fun. I had a NTC3 onroad car with a nova mega 12 that was perfect. Sean Thomas set the motor at the start of the season And I never touched it again for the rest of the year never even changed the glow plug all year and it never flamed out. Man that was some of the most fun I ever had racing RCcars.

[DustinH]

Anybody going to Hobby World today to play?

[Scotty08]

Anybody going to Hobby World today to play?

Won't be me, still roofing..

[Losi4Life]

The blowing up and melting down is what makes me not want electric. That along with all the extras I'ld have to buy.. The motor/ESC ain't that big of a deal to me. It is the $150+ batteries, and a $200+ charger that keeps me from gettin into the elecrtic scene.. Adn we all know batteries don't last forever and I am gonna guess the best ESC will last 2 years tops along with the batts. It all prolly weighs out nearly the same as nitro in the same course of time. So the deciding factor is the smell and sound for me.. I know not everyone agrees with that. I am also sure that there are times when electric can be run when nitro can't.. Nitro still does it for me better than electric. At least for now..


The cool thing is I have talked to some people at Tekin and they will replace anything that happens to break or meltdown. I think Castle is the same way... The only thing that bothers me is the cost up front, by the way chargers are a little cheaper than $200..

[Scotty08]

The cool thing is I have talked to some people at Tekin and they will replace anything that happens to break or meltdown. I think Castle is the same way... The only thing that bothers me is the cost up front, by the way chargers are a little cheaper than $200..

Yeah but the best ones run $100-$150 fairly commonly.. Not saying I won't build an E powered machine one day, it'll just be for fun more than anything at least in the beginning.

[DMYERS]

Another summer of tuning on that nitro. With flame outs, bad bearings, clutch issues. And whatever. Electric will start looking mighty attractive LOL. I think with one more summer to get everything sorted out 1/8 scale electric will be prity trustworthy. about like a 10 scale. Set it up right and it almost never quits. you can spend all your time on chassy tuning. And with the car having the same power every time you run it . It makes tuning alot easier to

[DMYERS]

Now if someone can come up with a device to make a nitro sound it would be......perfect. Thats the only thing i miss about nitro. electrics are just to dam quiet LOL

[Scotty08]

Another summer of tuning on that nitro. With flame outs, bad bearings, clutch issues. And whatever. Electric will start looking mighty attractive LOL. I think with one more summer to get everything sorted out 1/8 scale electric will be prity trustworthy. about like a 10 scale. Set it up right and it almost never quits. you can spend all your time on chassy tuning. And with the car having the same power every time you run it . It makes tuning alot easier to

Other than an over heating issue while using a 6mm carb insert it runs and tunes with 0 problems. Using same glow since I finished breakin. Nearly a full gallon, and still running strong..

[DMYERS]

Yep,, nothing wrong with nitro when you got it all dialed. That was allways my problem. In 10 years of r/c racing I never could figure out how to tune a motor worth a dam. I burned up a $400.00 rb in 10 min once. And im not joking I just about cried LOL
So what do you do after that
I guess you go electric LOL

[DustinH]

Yeah, I was thinking next year will be the year of electrics too.

[Scotty08]

Yeah, I was thinking next year will be the year of electrics too.

That very weel cold be. Alot of that will depend on how well the exhibition race go in the state series across the country.. By then the price of them bruchless and LiPo will hopefully comedown and make it that much more appealing..

[free9willia]

Yeah, I was thinking next year will be the year of electrics too.

dustin you been driving that caster to long,lol when a good driver comes along with a electric buggy or truggy and starts beating the nitros then you will see the big change over, i think maybe two years, remember they cant run half hour or a hour in a main, but will see..:confused2

[DMYERS]

20 min mains are plenty long for me anyway. and I think I should be able to go 30 min with my new setup.. mmm on 5s with a medusa 1600 kv motor and 5000 zippy battery. think I may get one of those new tekin motors. 159.95 that is about 100.00 cheaper than a nue. And you can get the zippy's for 109.00 for the 5s 5000. electric doesn't have to cost a arm and a leg